A discussion of grief and how to learn to cope with loss. Julia Samuel is a psychotherapist and the Founder Patron of Child Bereavement UK. Her previous books This Too Shall Pass and Grief Works were Sunday Times bestsellers. In her new book, Every Family has a Story, she dives into eight case studies, analysing separation, step-relationships, leaving home, trauma and loss. Writer and journalist Clover Stroud is a regular contributor to the Sunday Times and the Guardian. Her recent book The Red of my Blood is about what life feels like when death interrupts it, about describing an experience that seems beyond words. They talk about bearing the unbearable with journalist Georgina Godwin.