For the Spanish neurologist, Jordi Montero, who in 2017 published the book Permiso para quejarse, what is behind chronic pain is emotion. We do not take into consideration our own culture when we have physical pain treated, nor do we listen to our own bodies. From a rigorous and optimistic point of view, this doctor has helped us to understand ourselves as humans and our reality, based on neurology and the relationship between the brain and pain. He will talk about these matters with the intellectual and Minister of Health and Social Protection. He will talk with journalist Hassan Nassar.