Art will be the axis of the conversation between Eduardo Arroyo and Miguel Zugaza. Their collaboration has been intense for the last two decades. Zugaza has been the director of major museums who has celebrated Arroyo as a living classic. He organized two of his shows as head of the Museum of Fine Arts in Bilbao, based on the artist's pictorial production in the 21st century - and also during his time in El Prado, when he was commissioned the “Cordero Místico”. The writer and journalist Jesús Ruíz Mantilla moderates the encounter between these two magnificent creators.