Until recently, Francisco Sagasti held the position of President of Peru, acting as the country’s leader during a period of particular political and socioeconomic turbulence, made even worse by the pandemic. Apart from being President of the Republic he has been Chairman of Congress, Head of Strategic Planning at the World Bank, Chair of the UN’s Consultative Council of Science and Technology and a manager and board member of many other Peruvian and international organizations. An industrial engineer by training, Sagasti has taught at various universities in Peru and abroad, and is the author of over 20 books and a hundred academic articles. His most recent work is Imaginemos un Perú mejor… y hagámoslo realidad, a compilation of interviews and articles that analyse the structural problems of Peru and propose forms of political, social and cultural growth. Max Hernández, a doctor of medicine and a member of the International Psychoanalytical Association, is the author of Memoria del bien perdido, an incisive exploration and psychological portrait of one of the great figures of the early colonial period, the Inca Garcilaso de la Vega. They will talk about their most recent works, and on the way impart some of their vast knowledge of Peruvian history and reality, giving their views on the past, present and future prospects of the country.