Two journalists will talk about the arduous job of presenting the reality in their countries, twin nations that suffer from endemic violence. Patricia Nieto (Colombia) has been awarded the Simón Bolívar National Journalism Prize and the José Martí Latin American Journalism Award, given by the Prensa Latina agency. His most recent book, Crónicas del paraíso (2022), is a compilation of over thirty years of reports on the war in Colombia, giving a face and a voice to those who suffered it in their own lives: displaced persons and those who lost loved ones. The journalist Joseph Zárate (Peru) has received several prestigious awards, including the 2018 Gabriel García Márquez Journalism Prize, the 2016 Ortega y Gasset Prize and the 2015 PAGE National Prize for Environmental Journalism, created by the UN; he has edited IDL-Reporteros and is a resident editor at Radio Ambulante. In conversation with Mariana Sánchez Aizcorbe, a journalist with a long career in media organizations such as CNN and Al Jazeera.