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Sophie Pavelle talks to Andy Fryers

To Have or to Hold

Hay Festival 2025, 

What can nature teach us about living together? Investigating eight symbiotic relationships trying to survive the climate and biodiversity crises, science communicator Sophie Pavelle explains why it has never been more vital for us to understand symbiosis.

She talks to Hay Festival’s sustainability director Andy Fryers about the interconnectedness between species and the relationships that underpin natural environments.

Pavelle worked for Beaver Trust and presented their award-winning documentary Beavers Without Borders. She is the author of Forget Me Not, winner of the People’s Book Prize for Non-Fiction.