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Eliane Brum and Guy Shrubsole talk to Ayisha Osori

Rainforests: The Centre of the Earth

Hay Festival 2025, 

Discover how rainforests are at the centre of our universe, and what can be done to save them, and in turn the human race, from destruction. Writers Eliane Brum and Guy Shrubsole engage in a passionate discussion with Ayisha Osori of Open Society Foundations about reforesting and the communities – human and otherwise – who live in and around rainforests.

Brum’s Banzeiro Òkòtó recounts her move to Altamira, a city along the Xingu River that has been devastated by the construction of one of the largest dams in the world. A Brazilian writer, journalist and documentary filmmaker, Brum is one of the protagonists of global movements Amazon Center of the World and Free The Future.

Shrubsole is an environmental campaigner and writer who has worked for Friends of the Earth and the Right to Roam campaign. His The Lost Rainforests of Britain maps the spectacular lost temperate rainforest that may once have covered up to one-fifth of the country.

Eliane Brum and Guy Shrubsole talk to Ayisha Osori